Let’s have a little doula chat, shall we? You’re pregnant, and as a result, you’ve acquired a whole new vocabulary: baby-wearing, layette, milk-duct, meconium, hybrid-diapers, effacement, linea alba – the list goes on. One word that will become ever-present on your prenatal planet will be this one: “doula”. You’ll hear it from friends, on social media, in your childbirth class, maybe even from your local grocery store check-out staffer. So, because you have an inquiring mind of the prenatal kind (where you HAVE to know everything, but then forget it five minutes later), you are going to investigate the heck out of this doula thing. And we applaud you for that. If you want a solid intro as to why you should hire a labor support doula, please watch Anne’s video.
A Homebirth....in Hospital?
Homes and hospitals. They might not seem to have a whole lot in common, except for the fact that they both begin with the letter “H”.
But homebirth and hospital birth can and do co-exist, though that is sometimes hard to reconcile. We are so accustomed to categorization in our society – something has to be either/or; this or that. And often times those two choices are seemingly opposing ones. Why? Must there be conflict and judgment at every turn, especially when we are talking about teenie-weenie, precious babies and their awesome, warrior moms?
Busting Two Common Hospital Birth Myths
“Thankfully you were in the hospital!”
Unless you are well prepared, have an advocate, and are going to a provider and setting that supports natural physiologic birth, the following are unfortunately the common scenarios. A healthy pregnant mama gets admitted to the hospital in labor, put on the continuous fetal monitor, given an IV, told she can’t eat or drink, put in bed, labor stalled, she was then given Pitocin to augment her contractions which caused fetal distress, resulting in an emergency cesarean. And they tell you, thankfully you were in the hospital. We need to send love to all who still face this prevalent “we saved your baby” after the cascade interventions that proceeded it, that often caused it all.
Another common scenario is a mama is told her baby has macrosomia - is too big (well above 9 pounds for example) and they schedule an induction, which has all the above interventions and their risks, including not creating the necessary ingredients for her to succeed in progressing to have a natural, let alone vaginal birth, and she is told she needs a cesarean for a failed induction; or they just jump to cesarean without a “trial of labor” and baby weighs up to several pounds less than the estimated weight, indicating the induction or cesarean was not even necessary in the first place.
I’ve posted often about each one of these interventions and how they are not evidence based. No animal could labor well with any one of them, so how could a human being? Each one in their own right increases risk and may lead to this cascade of interventions, stress and rescue when nothing wasn’t broken to begin with. Whether you’re planning a birth at home or birth center to avoid this scenario in the first place, or hospital, especially if it’s your first time giving birth vaginally, your excellent preparation is key. Set yourself up for success with my online Guides to Pregnancy, Birth & Postpartum. And in adjunct my Natural Birth Secrets book 2nd edition.
“We just want a healthy mom and baby.”
Heathy to medical providers and hospitals means a mom and baby who are alive without any serious unstable conditions that need immediate or ongoing attention. They are not often concerned with long term effects of their treatment - even medical ones like the disruption of the microbiome from antibiotics - especially concerning when overused and unnecessary, or the short and long term harmful impact of early cord clamping. They are not concerned with the traumatic impact of their type of treatment on mother or baby. Over 45% of mamas in US experience birth trauma - PTSD from their birth experience and how they were treated. I discuss this in depth for mom and babies in my Natural Birth Secrets book 2nd edition.
If this is your only goal YOU are selling yourself short. A live mother and baby without obvious concerning physical complications is baseline, but what about the bigger and long term picture of real health of your mind, body, heart & spirit, the health of your family? What about your experience - is it deeply positive, respectful, empowering, beautiful, sacred, personal, one you will love and treasure forever even if challenging? Do you feel heard, respected, supported? Do you feel safe, comfortable, free to labor as you want? Do you get full informed consent and your decisions and choices honored? Was your partner involved in a meaningful way? This is the most important day of your life - let it be fully and truly healthy and absolutely glorious. Make this happen with my Guide to Pregnancy, Birth and Postpartum. And compliment it with my Natural Birth Secrets Birth second edition - where I go into both of these topics in more depth, along with the research, and the safety and better outcomes from homebirth with midwives in the healthy population.
I’ve taken everything I’ve learned, trained, and supported women locally for over 28 years in my private practice and I’ve poured all of my love, passion, knowledge, and experience into creating something truly special for you… my new and updated Pregnancy, Birth & Postpartum Guides. Same Beloved Content Plus Over 40 Added Bonus Videos! Buy Here Now!
They can be used via the mobile App or on your desktop! It’s the most up to date combination of Love Your Birth and Walk With Anne for Mamas online courses at a cheaper price! And they have an option for direct access to me for your questions and concerns!!
Whether you’re an experienced or new parent, there are hours of videos, workbooks, and PDFs to answer all of your questions. Everything is searchable, so you can just type or talk and it’ll bring you right to the exact moment in the video where I answer your question. It’ll blow your mind! If English is not your strongest language, you can even change the captions or even the audio to the language you prefer. The Prenatal, Birth & Postpartum Guides can be sold separately or in a bundle to buy only the section you need or get ALL of the guides for a limited-time offer of 50% off -> RIGHT HERE!
The key to a positive birth is feeling confident, strong, relaxed, and empowered during the entire process, regardless of the twists and turns it may take. I give my full heart and all I know in everything I do to support Mommas.
VBAC After One, Two or More Cesareans
What is a VBAC?
A VBAC is a vaginal birth after cesarean.
If a woman has had a cesarean and wants to plan a vaginal birth for her next, it would be considered a VBAC, and the number after it depends on how many prior cesareans there were.
What are the chances of having a successful VBAC and who is a good candidate for a VBAC?
The stats range that 60-80% of women, who have had previous cesareans, are candidates for a successful VBAC. In actuality, most healthy pregnant women carrying healthy babies are candidates.
The chances of a successful VBAC are higher if a woman is using a midwife, even higher in free standing birthing centers and home settings.
Going to a hospital and working with an OB/GYN with high cesarean rates, will increase the likelihood that a woman will have another cesarean.
In some hospitals, there are a lot of restrictive procedures, like continuous electronic fetal monitoring, confining a laboring woman to lay in bed, not allowing her to eat or drink, routine IVs and time limits, which increase the risk of a cesarean.
There are many benefits to a VBAC, that are physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual.
These are only a few important benefits on the long list:
No risks from major abdominal surgery. This is huge. Unfortunately, a cesarean can lead to trauma to the internal organs or reproductive tract, risk of hemorrhage, complications with scar tissue, long term post operative pain, wound infection, blood clots, stroke, and possible respiratory problems for the baby. High rates of cesarean section contribute to high rates of morbidity and mortality – and this is occurring in modern countries such as the US, which ranks among the bottom of them in terms of outcome stats.
Easier postpartum healing and recovery.
Baby receives needed bacteria for optimal health, from mother when passing through the vaginal birth canal.
Breastfeeding may be more successful
No potential harm to future fertility.
Feeling more positive about the birth experience
Increased sense of empowerment.
More involvement of family and support people.
Less risk of postpartum depression and emotional birth trauma.
What is the main risk of a VBAC?
The risk of separation of the one prior uterine scar is approximately 2 in 1000 VBACs, but often it is a mild superficial dehiscence (slight separation of some layers of the surgical wound) that has no clinical significance and does not impact the health of mom or baby. The risk of severe life-threatening emergency from a partial or complete uterine rupture of all the scar layers is significantly lower – a highly unlikely occurrence, significantly less than 1 %., 1.36% after 2 cesareans, slightly higher after three cesareans, with a higher comparative maternal and newborn morbidity with each repeat cesarean - but still in perspective, low, and depends on a variety of factors related to your individual situation. The main risk is of a VBAC is this rare catastrophic rupture of the previous uterine incision. This rare total disruption of the uterine scar risks both the mother and her baby, and can lead to catastrophic outcomes. It cannot be ignored and must be monitored for appropriately; but it cannot be exaggerated or make the risk of repeat cesarean less alarming. Frank uterine rupture is often mistaken for more common mild separation of the previous uterine scar without consequence, happens in less than 1% of all pregnancies. Even ACOG released guidelines that it’s reasonable to consider women with two previous low transverse uterine incisions to be candidates for trial of labor and to counsel on the combination of other factors that affect their probability of achieving successful VBAC.
But, it is getting harder to find a provider to attend to your desired vaginal birth after one cesarean let alone after two or more. It is still possible, and you have the right to decline another cesarean, but it is ideal for you to find a provider and setting most supportive to birth YOUR way safely.
Although every decision has risks, a VBAC is a reasonable, appropriate and safe option. If a woman panning a VBAC decides to give birth at home, I highly recommend working with a well trained and experienced midwife and consider the distance to a hospital (30 minutes or less driving time is ideal).
There are risks and benefits to every kind of birth and in every setting. I provide women with evidence based information, encourage each family to dig deep and look at the pros and cons to having a VBAC in a hospital setting, free standing birthing center or home, vs a routine cesarean and have informed consent for her birth.
Are there benefits to a cesarean?
A planned cesarean is in a controlled environment, and some women find great comfort in that knowing. Perhaps a woman has had a previous traumatic, long labor the first time and they just don’t want to go through that experience again. Some women are very anxious about that and they just feel safer knowing they will have another cesarean.
I take that seriously, because she won’t labor well if she doesn’t feel safe.
Like I mentioned before, the serious risks for a VBAC can be often prevented, treated or transferred to surgical care in time, with a skilled midwife or obstetrician who is attending to the laboring women, aware and mindful of the symptoms that lead up to that.
Thankfully some hospitals are now at least allowing more time for baby to get the cord blood from the placenta, skin to skin bonding, and her partner or main support person in the operating room. Some hospitals and providers are performing “gentle cesareans” – cesareans that are family and woman centered, and try to provide the environment of a natural birth as much as possible. This is a wonderful attempt to restore humanity to birthing in the operating room
In most cases, a VBAC is a safe option.
I share the opinion of many concerned with improving maternity care and reducing our rising rates of maternal and newborn death and serious health consequences from the interventions in childbirth, that a woman should not be forced to have a major surgery against her will, rather provided research and empowered to make her own decision, considering she is having a healthy AAOG removed the previous unreasonable restriction requiring immediate availability of a surgical staff for an emergency cesarean, as most hospitals around the country, let alone free standing birth centers and home settings, do not meet this criteria. Most hospitals are not able to have a surgical staff at all times and cannot perform an emergency cesarean in under 30 minutes.
Despite this, research is showing that far too many obstetricians and the midwives they back do not offer VBACs after one cesarean, let alone more. They routinely recommend repeat cesareans because they may fear law suits, succumb to scheduling pressures, have restrictive hospital or malpractice insurance policies, and/or feel pressured to uphold certain standards among their colleagues who are not supportive of VBAC. The hands of a midwife whose collaborative obstetrician and hospital do not support VBAC can often be unnecessarily tied as well for these reasons. Most repeat cesareans are not actually medically necessary, and are commonly recommended due to various non-medical reasons. This is very concerning.
What also concerns me is that the risks of a VBAC are magnified in conversation with women, while the risks of a repeat cesarean are downplayed, so women may feel forced, afraid and powerless.
I want women to feel like they have a voice, as they do have a legal and medically ethical right to autonomy over their bodies, their births and their baby’s.
Some women who want to VBAC have limited options and local doctors in the area are only offering cesareans. Some feel they have no option other than having an unattended homebirth, or labor alone at home until the last minute without any monitoring, or not be truthful with their providers about their previous cesarean birth – all of which can increase the risks for her and her baby.
A trained and experienced midwife who is continuously with the woman in active labor, can detect concerning signs and symptoms before they can become a crisis, and she be transferred and treated in time to save her and her baby’s life and heath. A midwife wears many hats, one of which is protecting the space so the natural process of birth can proceed with ease and grace, and another is a lifeguard – to know when and how to intervene to prevent problems or manage emergencies. There are many wonderful obstetricians supportive of VBAC who have this training and style of practice as well; they are just harder to find.You have the right to decline the repeat cesarean, and find a more supportive skilled provider at home. There are midwives and OBs who do it and post about it around the globe. It is worth every penny to even travel quite a distance to a practice who honors your choices. You REALLY have to want it, and you must prepare as best you can to set yourself up to succeed, like it’s your Mount Everest to climb, to have your healing, redemptive beautiful healthy birth.
Last tips:
If a woman knows she wants to have another baby, I would start with research and education. Ask yourself: “What do I want and why?”
A woman should get the support she needs. Most women who have had one or more prior cesarean births have issues they need to discuss and heal from. One of my dedications and areas of expertise is creating space so a mom can debrief, process and recover from her previous upsetting or traumatic birth experience, as well as plan for a better one next time around. Schedule a coaching call with me for more personal guidance if you need.
I tell mamas to do what they can to educate, prepare and empower themselves in a whole different way than last time as I want them to succeed, build their circle of support, and include in their birth team advocates to speak for them when they are in the heat of labor. I tell them to prepare for a natural vaginal birth. The mind, body, heart and spirit can prepare for a natural vaginal birth - and a deeply positive, beautiful and empowering one. Yes, it takes work and practice, but it is worth every penny, every effort and amount of time you put in, if this is the birth experience you want and dream about. This is one of my passions and main focus of my online childbirth prep course Anne’s Guide to Pregnancy, Birth and Postpartum - sold separately or bundled together in adjunct to my Natural Birth Secrets books 2nd edition and Trauma Release Formula 2nd edition if you need help previous healing birth trauma - both extensive but very different resources that compliment each other to heal and prepare for your different next birth.
I also recommend hiring an awesome doula, as those who have a doula are less likely to have a cesarean.
A doula is amazing because they offer the mothering comfort and support that our ancestors had. When women would give birth in their tribe or village, and they were surrounded by mothers, aunts, sisters, grandmothers, and the other women of their community, they received that mothering support by women who were comfortable with birth and relaxed around it. Fear has no place in birth, and a doula provides needed calm and loving support.
Remember, In the end it’s not in our control, and we let go and surrender,
If you do all of these things and end up having a cesarean, it’s not a failure. There is no failure in birth. It is a birth, a belly birth, and it’s the birth of your baby and you as a mother. It is the birth of your family and your partner as a parent. Stay present, stay involved and keep a positive mindset. Focus on the blessing, that you did all that you could, and thankful for modern medicine, which saved you and your baby’s life and preserved health. Also, you can ask for a gentle cesarean, which restores humanity to the operating room by doing such things as allowing your support people in with you, enabling baby to emerge from the incision simulating as much as possible a vaginal birth to help baby clear his/her own lungs, enabling you to participate by lowering the drapes so you can see your birth, giving you sterile gloves to receive your baby, optimal umbilical cord clamping so baby can benefit from the cord blood, encouraging immediate skin to skin bonding and early breastfeeding.
Healing can occur afterwards, and may take time and lots of support. But there is no place for shame and negative self judgement here.
Questions to Ask When Interviewing Your Provider, Red Flags and Choosing Your Best Provider
Here are some key questions to ask your midwife or obstetrician if you want a natural birth. Listen to them and within you. You will get your answers about best provider for the birth you want. And do pay attention to red flags.
Do you have training and experience supporting natural physiologic undisturbed birth when all is well?
What’s your rate of primary cesarean?
If I need a cesarean, are you or your collaborative obstetricians experienced and do with gentle/family centered version?
Do you encourage VBAC? What’s your rate?
Are you skilled and supportive of physiologic breech and twin birth? What’s your rates?
Do you support my birth preferences and my right to decline interventions?
Do you advocate for doulas and other support persons I want?
Do you support and have training/skills for vaginal breech and twin birth?
What’s your rate and policy for induction of labor - like going past due date, suspected big baby, water breaking before labor etc.
Is your setting when you practice in alignment with you? What restrictions might be placed on me becasue their protocol?
Most importantly, do support my legal and ethical right to autonomy over my body, birth and baby?
Will my rights to make informed decisions about my and my baby’s care be respected?
If they don't support natural undisturbed health birth or evidence based care, their rate of primary cesarean section is above 10-15%, they don't support your birth preferences & right to decline interventions, they don't advocate for doulas & any other support person you want, they don't encourage VBAC and have rates lower than 70-80%, they have high induction rates for things like going past due date, suspected big baby, water breaking before labor, they don't support and have lots of experience with vaginal breech and twin birth, and/or the setting where they practice is not in alignment with them & they place a lot of restrictions on you because of protocols and policies you have your answer. You can switch providers anytime and hire one that is most in alignment with what you want, who will work collaboratively with you.
Here are some red flags, but here are so many others, especially when all is well with mama and baby such as:
They don’t support natural physiological birth.
They don’t care to read your birth plan or respect your birth preferences.
They don’t do VBAC.
They don’t do vaginal breech or twin birth.
They advise frequent ultrasound, routine multiple tests and procedures without discussion.
They perform weekly internal exams at 36 weeks.
They induce everyone at 41 weeks or sooner.
They do not believe in or practice natural physiological birth.
They don’t like or support doulas.
They do routine episiotomies on all first time vaginal birthers.
They do immediate cord clamping, or rush clamping without waiting until it is limp, white and pulseless.
Their cesarean rate greater than 10-15%.
scheduling a cesarean because they tell you your baby is too big
Unless you are planning to birth in an out of hospital freestanding birth center or at home with authentic midwives, most maternity care practitioners and the settings they work have not seen natural undisturbed birth - and they are trained and quite used to disturbing it. They think it’s necessary to fix what isn’t broken when all is well. It’s like everyone trying to interfere with your heart beating or your lungs breathing when it’s doing just fine on it’s own. It is a sad state of affairs with what’s going on in most modern hospitals especially in the US. I’ve had obstetricians, nurses and even medwives (midwives who practice more medically like many OBs) tell me they have never seen a natural undisturbed birth. Some actually want to shadow me to see one! I love when I do hospital shifts and the med students follow me - it may be their only chance to see natural undisturbed normal physiological birth. That’s the vast majority of what I see and I don’t get how it can be otherwise. Why is this happening as if it were some cool freak show, when the research supports it, when it’s evidence based care, when this is how birth occurred for thousands of years since the beginning of time, and still is the way it happens for the majority worldwide.
Here is a wonderful testimony sent to me from a mama who took my online Guide to Pregnancy, Birth and Postpartum, prepared, informed and empowered herself to tell her obstetrician (the only provider in her rural area) who never saw natural birth, to do nothing but be a fly on the wall, just in case of emergency. He said he never did that, does mostly inductions, medicates births and cesareans. But she respectfully spoke up and he finally agreed. And who was touched to tears, crying the most at her beautiful natural birth? Think of the ripple effect that has on his care for other mamas? If you want a natural birth without disturbance-ask your provider if they’ve seen one. You’ll get your answer whether you should run or not, to a provider and setting where it’s the norm.
If you choose to stay with such a provider with so many red flags, you have to prepare even more, fight even more for what you want, make sure to have an advocate, and know your legal rights to autonomy and informed refusal so you don't allow anyone to dictate you to do anything against your will or manipulate you with playing the fear of dead baby card when there is nothing wrong. Dig deep - is this what you want to be doing during your pregnancy and such a sensitive time as labor?
For more information on how to best prepare for having your baby, feel well educated and informed , confident and empowered, bust through fears and trust the process, and have the most beautiful birth of your dreams take my online signature comprehensive prep course - Anne’s Guide to Pregnancy, Birth and Postpartum and read my Natural Birth Secrets 2nd book edition. I created them for you to do just that, based on over two decades of holistic nurse midwifery experience and attending over 1000 births.
I’ve taken everything I’ve learned, trained, and supported women locally for over 28 years in my private practice and I’ve poured all of my love, passion, knowledge, and experience into creating something truly special for you… my new and updated Pregnancy, Birth & Postpartum Guides. Same Beloved Content Plus Over 40 Added Bonus Videos! Buy Here Now!
They can be used via the mobile App or on your desktop! It’s the most up to date combination of Love Your Birth and Walk With Anne for Mamas online courses at a cheaper price! And they have an option for direct access to me for your questions and concerns!!
Whether you’re an experienced or new parent, there are hours of videos, workbooks, and PDFs to answer all of your questions. Everything is searchable, so you can just type or talk and it’ll bring you right to the exact moment in the video where I answer your question. It’ll blow your mind! If English is not your strongest language, you can even change the captions or even the audio to the language you prefer. The Prenatal, Birth & Postpartum Guides can be sold separately or in a bundle to buy only the section you need or get ALL of the guides for a limited-time offer of 50% off -> RIGHT HERE!
The key to a positive birth is feeling confident, strong, relaxed, and empowered during the entire process, regardless of the twists and turns it may take. I give my full heart and all I know in everything I do to support Mommas.